Comments on: The morality of cloning http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/ Since that special night, a very inspirational muse caught me in her enchanted web. Under her magical guidance, writing became my passion since then: sometimes sad, others happy, conveying the diverse emotions and situations I was going through. These have both my heart and my soul in them, enjoy... Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:02:26 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: bbZuSh http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11642 bbZuSh Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:50:51 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11642 Thank you everyone =) Thank you everyone =)

]]> By: KnotKeats http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11628 KnotKeats Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:47:19 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11628 I wish I had a link to the original article I'm thinking about, but while clones are only identical twins in terms of being a copy of the original individual genome, the expression of the genes changes after conception, and can even change after birth. Heres a link citing changes after comception: http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001692.html Ah. Here's the link I was looking for changes in genetic expression after birth: http://discovermagazine.com/2006/nov/cover/article_view?b_start:int=2&-C= So, even if we perfect making a clone the same as an identical twin, identical twins don't necessarily have identical genetic expression. I wish I had a link to the original article I’m thinking about, but while clones are only identical twins in terms of being a copy of the original individual genome, the expression of the genes changes after conception, and can even change after birth.

Heres a link citing changes after comception:

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001692.html

Ah. Here’s the link I was looking for changes in genetic expression after birth:

http://discovermagazine.com/2006/nov/cover/article_view?b_start:int=2&-C=

So, even if we perfect making a clone the same as an identical twin, identical twins don’t necessarily have identical genetic expression.

]]> By: moneysworthless http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11587 moneysworthless Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:07:11 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11587 hi :) hi :)

]]> By: viru5 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11575 viru5 Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:07:28 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11575 aligato urahara :P aligato urahara :P

]]> By: moneysworthless http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11560 moneysworthless Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:43:03 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11560 Right, cloning for no reason doesn't seem right to me, and it isn't a good use of resources either. But now there is work being done to extract stem cells from skin cells, so what might be cloning's greatest asset could disappear. Right, cloning for no reason doesn’t seem right to me, and it isn’t a good use of resources either. But now there is work being done to extract stem cells from skin cells, so what might be cloning’s greatest asset could disappear.

]]> By: Sirdar http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11532 Sirdar Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:55:42 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11532 Cloning is a subject that is going to create divides between people for decades. I guess it really depends on the purpose for cloning. Like most good things in the world, someone will use it for an advantage. Take athletes. Do we clone them for their country so that they can perform better when they grow up? Plus I am sure they would add a few genes to make a better athlete. That is kind of like dog breeding to me. Keep on breeding until you get a superior breed. If it was used for the betterment of the world in say...helping to eradicate certain diseases..then I wouldn't have a problem with it. Of course, I'm not sure I would be a candidate for cloning but I do have some enduring traits :-) Cloning is a subject that is going to create divides between people for decades. I guess it really depends on the purpose for cloning. Like most good things in the world, someone will use it for an advantage. Take athletes. Do we clone them for their country so that they can perform better when they grow up? Plus I am sure they would add a few genes to make a better athlete. That is kind of like dog breeding to me. Keep on breeding until you get a superior breed.

If it was used for the betterment of the world in say…helping to eradicate certain diseases..then I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Of course, I’m not sure I would be a candidate for cloning but I do have some enduring traits :-)

]]> By: morinn http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11526 morinn Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:11:10 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11526 the misconception that many people have, mainly from watching old sci-fi movies is that a clone of themselves will look like them and think like them and have their memories. :D a clone will just be an identical replica of a person but a little younger than the original one . i don't really agree with cloning. it is artificial in my opinion. the misconception that many people have, mainly from watching old sci-fi movies is that a clone of themselves will look like them and think like them and have their memories. :D a clone will just be an identical replica of a person but a little younger than the original one . i don’t really agree with cloning. it is artificial in my opinion.

]]> By: viru5 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11510 viru5 Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:42:29 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11510 hmm nice idea indeed... though u barely scratched the surface of the problem itself. cloning as it is (as u said in the paragraph before last) has some defects all clones' DNA are the same age as the original donor's that is if the donor is 40 the clone's DNA will be 40 and as a matter of fact all cell DNA have a specific lifespan after which it undergoes self destruction and death of the nuclease and consequently of the cell>organ and organism. so even if the clone will be still in appearance, physiology and mentality, a child he will actually have older DNA (well i tried to explain it as simply as i could) as for stem cell... well that actually sounds great but then the drawback is stem cell in already born children and consequently adults does not exist.... those cells are already specialised once we are born. so basically to obtain unspecialised cells we should acquire them from fetus. this will result in severe deformity in an unborn child or even its death. stem cell regeneration is very promising (an experiment in 1998-2000 proved that it can regenerate even damaged nerves and cure complete paralysis) but it's actually illegal in most countries. the latest development in the matter in question will be the artificial synthesis of stem cells but then that's still only theoretical till now with a considerable amount of unfortunate drawbacks :( hmm nice idea indeed… though u barely scratched the surface of the problem itself. cloning as it is (as u said in the paragraph before last) has some defects all clones’ DNA are the same age as the original donor’s that is if the donor is 40 the clone’s DNA will be 40 and as a matter of fact all cell DNA have a specific lifespan after which it undergoes self destruction and death of the nuclease and consequently of the cell>organ and organism. so even if the clone will be still in appearance, physiology and mentality, a child he will actually have older DNA (well i tried to explain it as simply as i could) as for stem cell… well that actually sounds great but then the drawback is stem cell in already born children and consequently adults does not exist…. those cells are already specialised once we are born. so basically to obtain unspecialised cells we should acquire them from fetus. this will result in severe deformity in an unborn child or even its death. stem cell regeneration is very promising (an experiment in 1998-2000 proved that it can regenerate even damaged nerves and cure complete paralysis) but it’s actually illegal in most countries. the latest development in the matter in question will be the artificial synthesis of stem cells but then that’s still only theoretical till now with a considerable amount of unfortunate drawbacks :(

]]> By: Dawn http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11503 Dawn Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:22:24 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11503 I do agree with Knotkeats that a clone is no more than an identical twin. I read a book this summer called, “Never Let Me Go” by Kazuo Ishiguro, which is a fiction about making clones for the purpose of organ donation. Although that was the topic, it made me think of things closer to home for me, like what we take for granted, how people have lives that suck, yet accept what they have been given, how even in adversity, people can find love and contentment in life. We are not just bones and flesh and DNA, we are also a product of our experience, our environment and our thought processes which themselves are products of what we eat, the amount of sleep we get, our environment, our physical health and what we choose. Good post. I do agree with Knotkeats that a clone is no more than an identical twin. I read a book this summer called, “Never Let Me Go” by Kazuo Ishiguro, which is a fiction about making clones for the purpose of organ donation. Although that was the topic, it made me think of things closer to home for me, like what we take for granted, how people have lives that suck, yet accept what they have been given, how even in adversity, people can find love and contentment in life. We are not just bones and flesh and DNA, we are also a product of our experience, our environment and our thought processes which themselves are products of what we eat, the amount of sleep we get, our environment, our physical health and what we choose. Good post.

]]> By: bergerac http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11501 bergerac Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:38:32 +0000 http://nussaibah.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/the-morality-of-cloning/#comment-11501 An emotive topic choice and I commend your raising the issue here. Science will always find ways to bring about changes and the ethics of such is often placed to one side. From a medical prospective - issues of advances to aid life - and the quality thereof - has in itself the emotions one can see in hospitals, and within the eyes of anxious loved ones. Can the line ever be defined ........ An emotive topic choice and I commend your raising the issue here.

Science will always find ways to bring about changes and the ethics of such is often placed to one side.

From a medical prospective – issues of advances to aid life – and the quality thereof – has in itself the emotions one can see in hospitals, and within the eyes of anxious loved ones.

Can the line ever be defined ……..

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